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Mueller was pursuing FBI director job when he met with Trump in 2017, administration officials say

Multiple administration officials tell Fox News that when Robert Mueller met with President Trump in May of 2017, Mueller was indeed pursuing the open post as the director of the FBI – something the former Russia probe special counsel denied under oath during congressional testimony this summer.

These officials also told Fox News government documents showed Mueller was pursuing the job as a candidate himself.

It came as emails released this month through a Freedom of Information Act request by the conservative group Judicial Watch seemed to indicate Mueller knew there was a real possibility he could be named special counsel if he wasn’t chosen as the next FBI director.

“The boss and his staff do not know about our discussions,” then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said in an email to Mueller on May 12, 2017. Rosenstein’s boss was then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who had recused himself from the Russia probe, meaning the president would not have known either.

A source close to Rosenstein confirmed to Fox News that he had confidential conversations with Mueller about whether he would be willing to serve in the event he needed to appoint a special counsel. These conversations began on May 12, 2017, prior to Mueller's meeting with the president on May 16, 2017, the source acknowledged.

At the time of the now-famous May 16, 2017 meeting, James Comey had been fired as FBI director just days before and -- unbeknownst to the president -- Mueller would end up being named special counsel the very next day to oversee the Trump-Russia probe.

The president has repeatedly claimed that Mueller – who served as FBI director under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama – met with him about returning to lead the Justice Department. The president has pointed to this to argue it was a conflict for Mueller to become special counsel, saying he opted against hiring Mueller as FBI director.

But Mueller, in his July congressional testimony, denied the claim, saying he believed he was giving “input” to the president about the position.

“My understanding was I was not applying for the job,” Mueller said on July 24. “I was asked to give my input on what it would take to do the job.”

John Dowd, who served as the president’s attorney during the probe, ripped Mueller for meeting with Trump, calling it the “most dishonorable conduct I have ever witnessed.” He added, “Capt. Robert Mueller, USMC, sits in front of his commander-in-chief being interviewed for FBI director knowing he is going to investigate the president and never says a word.”

The president himself has claimed there were “numerous witnesses” to the meeting.

"It has been reported that Robert Mueller is saying that he did not apply and interview for the job of FBI Director (and get turned down) the day before he was wrongfully appointed Special Counsel" Trump tweeted the day of Mueller’s Capitol Hill testimony. "Hope he doesn't say that under oath in that we have numerous witnesses to the interview, including the Vice President of the United States!"

Mueller did not immediately return a request for comment from Fox News on Tuesday.

It was announced earlier this month that Mueller rejoined the WilmerHale law firm, after concluding his work as special counsel.

In April, Mueller’s team released a report about their findings, indicating they did not find evidence of coordination between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia while declining to reach a conclusion on whether the president's conduct during the probe amounted to obstruction.


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Facebook confirme que Donald Trump a le droit de mentir dans les publicités, mais pas de proférer des insultes
Business Insider - 9 Oct 2019, 11:19
https://www.businessinsider.fr/facebook-confirme-que-donald-trump-a-le-droit-de-mentir-dans-les-publicites-mais-pas-de-proferer-des-insultes/

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Attention, un politique en campagne ment:
Warren pretend qu'elle s'est fait virer parce qu'elle etait enceinte.

Apres le coup du sang cheyenne, voici un nouvel episode qui ne va pas ameliorer sa cote aupres de l'americain moyen.

C'est dingue comment elle peut se mettre toute seule dans la merde sur des questions ou son experience n'a en fait aucune incidence sur la politique qui doit etre menee. Je ne pense pas qu'il y ait un seul americain qui pense que virer des nanas pendant leur conge maternite (enfin, leur "maladie" puisqu'au niveau federal, il n'y a pas de conge maternite quand la boite a moins de 50 employes, juste des arrets maladie pour les femmes qui viennent de donner naissance) par exemple soit quelque chose de defendable, ou que les lois existantes protegent suffisamment l'emploi des femmes enceintes. Mais quel besoin d'inventer une telle histoire pour appuyer un point de sa campagne ?

Resumons, cote democrate les 3 candidats qui sont les favoris sont un mec de 77 ans en etat de decomposition avancee dont le fils fait fortune en faisant du business avec des regimes dictatoriaux, un mec de 74 ans qui vient d'avoir une crise cardiaque, et une nana de 70 balais qui n'arrete pas de se prendre les pieds dans le tapis sur des trucs completement basiques.
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La circulation des armes aux Etats-Unis provoque aussi des tueries dans les pays voisins
Billet de blog / Maureen Songne
Publié le 27 août 2019 à 20h19 - Mis à jour le 27 août 2019 à 20h41 Temps de Lecture 4 min.

Depuis des années, la législation américaine ultralibérale permet un trafic illégal d’armes qui touche fortement les Caraïbes et l’Amérique latine.

https://www.lemonde.fr/big-browser/article/2019/08/27/la-circulation-des-armes-aux-etats-unis-provoque-aussi-des-tueries-dans-les-pays-voisins_5503462_4832693.html

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Turkey’s Syria assault triggers war within GOP, as Trump battles neocon wing

Turkey’s incursion into northern Syria following President Trump’s unexpected pullback of troops from the border region has reignited a fight within the Republican Party over America's role in the Middle East -- and seen the president face withering criticism from some of his otherwise staunchest allies in Congress.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced Wednesday that Ankara had launched its offensive against Kurdish fighters in Syria – a key U.S. ally in the battle against the Islamic State. As convoys of Turkish Armed Forces vehicles rolled toward the border with Syria, Turkey launched airstrikes and artillery fire at Kurdish strongholds in the country.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said one fighter from the Syrian Democratic Forces has been killed so far and six others have been wounded. An SDF spokesperson also said two civilians have been killed as a result of the "Turkish bombardment" of the village of Mashrafa and Kurdish forces are warning of a “humanitarian catastrophe” that could potentially unfold because of the Turkish military operation.

The news of the Turkish assault ratcheted up the criticism Trump has received from the neoconservative wing of the Republican Party, which has long defended the U.S. presence in the volatile region and, in response to the troop pullback, warned that Washington is abandoning its only true ally in Syria.

“News from Syria is sickening,” Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., the House’s third-ranking Republican, tweeted on Wednesday. “Turkish troops preparing to invade Syria from the north, Russian-backed forces from the south, ISIS fighters attacking Raqqa.”

She added: “Impossible to understand why [President Trump] is leaving America’s allies to be slaughtered and enabling the return of ISIS.”

In arguably the tensest situation the president has been in with his own party since assuming office -- amid an impeachment fight where most GOP lawmakers still support him -- Trump sought to clarify his stance Wednesday afternoon. In a written statement, he said he does not support Turkey’s invasion of the region, but added that his goal since launching his presidential bid in 2015 was to stop “these endless, senseless wars—especially those that don’t benefit the United States.”

“The United States does not endorse this attack and has made it clear to Turkey that this operation is a bad idea,” Trump said in a statement. “Turkey has committed to protecting civilians, protecting religious minorities, including Christians, and ensuring no humanitarian crisis takes place—and we will hold them to this commitment.”

The president’s statements followed a number of tweets Wednesday morning defending his push to stop "endless wars."

"Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East," Trump tweeted. "The stupid endless wars, for us, are ending!"

The president added that he is "slowly & carefully" bringing home "our great soldiers & military," in line with his campaign promise to do so.

He added: "Our focus is on the BIG PICTURE! THE USA IS GREATER THAN EVER BEFORE!"

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., one of Trump’s closest allies and a leading voice in the Senate on foreign policy, stepped up his criticism of the president Wednesday, telling "Fox & Friends" that if Trump "follows through with this, it would be the biggest mistake of his presidency."

In tweets, Graham also urged prayers for "our Kurdish allies who have been shamelessly abandoned by the Trump Administration," adding, "This move ensures the reemergence of ISIS." He also said he would lead an effort in Congress to "make Erdogan pay a heavy price.”

While Trump’s decision has largely been panned by congressional Republicans, the president has a very vocal ally on Capitol Hill: Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul.

Trump and Paul have clashed on various issues since both were vying for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, but the two share a common ideology when it comes to opposing American intervention in foreign countries.

“I know this [Trump] is the first President in my lifetime to understand what is our national interest and what is not,” Paul tweeted. “He is stopping the endless wars and we will be stronger as a result. The Cheney/Graham Neocon War Caucus has cost us too much fighting endless wars.”

Trump’s call for ending U.S. military involvement in the Middle East and bringing the troops home was a feature of his presidential campaign, but it flies in the face of many decades of bipartisan American policy, even as the Trump administration and its immediate predecessor have tried to give additional attention to what they see as long-term security threats elsewhere, including from China and Russia.

The U.S. has more than 10,000 troops based across the Middle East, including about 5,200 in Iraq, 1,000 in Syria and several thousand others at bases in Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar. Also, the U.S. Navy's Mideast headquarters is at Bahrain in the Persian Gulf.

Just a couple of months ago the Pentagon reestablished a troop presence in Saudi Arabia after a lengthy absence, and in May it added air and naval forces in the region in response to what it views as worrying threats from Iran.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/turkeys-syria-assault-triggers-war-within-gop-as-trump-battles-neocon-wing
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UN sounds alarm on cash crisis, warns it may default on bills by month’s end

The United Nations is facing its worst cash crisis in nearly a decade and is warning that it may be unable to pay its bills by the end of the month, while urging member states to pay their contributions to the world body immediately.

Secretary-General Antonio Guterres wrote to member states this week, saying that as of the end of September, they have only paid 70 percent of budget contributions, compared with 78 percent at this time last year.

“The Organization runs the risk of depleting its liquidity reserves by the end of the month and defaulting on payments to staff and vendors,” a statement by Guterres spokesman Stephane Dujarric said.

“Stressing the Charter obligation of Member States, the Secretary-General thanked the Member States who have paid their regular budget assessments, which is now 129, and urged those who have not paid to do so urgently and in full,” the statement said. “This is the only way to avoid a default that could risk disrupting operations globally. The Secretary-General further asked governments to address the underlying reasons for the crisis and agree on measures to put the United Nations on a sound financial footing.”

While the U.S. is one of the countries that have not paid its contribution in full, an official from the U.S. Mission to the U.N. told Fox News that is in part because of differences in U.S. and U.N. fiscal years.

“To date this year, we have contributed over $600 million to UN peacekeeping operations, and will be providing the vast majority of the $674 million we owe to the 2019 regular budget this fall, as we have in past years,” the official said. “Overall the United States, as the largest contributor to the UN, contributes roughly $10 billion annually in assessed and voluntary contributions across the United Nations system.”

The official also said the U.S. has been clear that no single member should pay for more than a quarter of the U.N. budget. (The U.S. currently pays approximately 22 percent of the U.N.’s operating budget.)

President Trump echoed this sentiment on Wednesday morning, tweeting in reference to reports about the U.N. budget woes: “So make all Member Countries pay, not just the United States!”

Guterres, meanwhile, says he has requested other measures, including reductions in travel, postponement of spending, and postponing conferences and other meetings.

The U.S. is unlikely to step in to help solve the problem anytime soon. The Trump administration has pushed for a re-evaluation of the U.N. budget and has been skeptical of the U.N.'s alignment with U.S. interests.

A recent State Department report found that the U.N. General Assembly is out of sync with U.S. interests in more than two-thirds of votes taken in 2018.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/un-sounds-alarm-on-cash-crisis-warns-it-may-default-on-bills-by-months-end
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lefigaro.fr et agences a écrit:
Donald Trump: «Les Kurdes ne nous ont pas aidés en Normandie»
Par Valérie Samson et AFP, Reuters Agences
La communication du président américain sur l’opération militaire turque dans le Nord de la Syrie est à l’image de ses prises de position des derniers jours: imprévisible et erratique.
https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/donald-trump-les-kurdes-en-nous-ont-pas-aides-en-normandie-20191010



libé reprenant The Atlantic a écrit:
Ignorant, capricieux et irréfléchi : Trump vu par ses généraux
En pleine controverse sur le lâchage des Kurdes par Donald Trump au nord de la Syrie, le magazine «The Atlantic» publie un récit inquiétant sur la perception du président par certains haut gradés du Pentagone.
Par Frédéric Autran — 9 octobre 2019 à 16:48



Édith : Thread de C. Sellin sur le sujet "Kurdes" : https://twitter.com/CorentinSellin/status/1182026788681199617



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Bernie Sanders says he misspoke when he said campaign would slow its pace

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., backpedaled Wednesday on statements he made a day earlier about the pace of his presidential bid following his heart attack last week, telling NBC News that he was ready to "get back into the groove of a very rigorous campaign."

In Sanders' first sit-down interview since he had two stents inserted into his chest to clear a blocked artery, Sanders said he's feeling "a hell of a lot better than I did a week ago."

"I have no pain, I'm out walking now, getting back to work, feel good," he told NBC's Harry Smith in a clip from the interview, which is scheduled to air Wednesday night.

Sanders was at a campaign rally in Nevada last Tuesday when he began complaining of chest pains.

"Somebody said, do you want to do selfies and I said, 'My God, do I not want to do selfies. Let me get the hell out of here,'" he recalled. The discomfort prompted Sanders to visit an urgent care facility.

"They did a few tests and the doctor there said, she said, 'You're having a heart event,' and it just struck me. I could not believe it," Sanders said.

After Sanders was released from a Nevada hospital on Friday, the campaign disclosed that the 78-year-old had suffered a heart attack. However, Sanders pushed back on claims that his campaign tried to hide or conceal his health ailments from voters.

"No I don't accept that," Sanders said. "That's nonsense and I think that sometimes, you know, I don't know what people think campaigns are. We're dealing with all kinds of doctors and we wanted to have a sense of what the hell was going on really. So the first thing that we're trying to do is understand what's going on and not run to The New York Times and not have to report every 15 minutes. This is not a baseball game. So I think we acted absolutely appropriately."

"No apologies," he added.

Sanders told reporters Tuesday outside his home in Burlington, Vt., that he "certainly intends to be actively campaigning" but will "change the nature" and frequency of rallies and events to "make sure I have the strength to do what I have to do."

“We were doing, you know, in some cases five or six meetings a day, three or four rallies and town meetings and meeting with groups of people,” Sanders said about his campaign prior to his heart attack. “I don’t think I’m going to do that.”

Sanders said he "misspoke" when he suggested he would slow his pace on the campaign trail, but his wife, Jane O'Meara Sanders, said Wednesday that her husband has postponed all campaign events until next Tuesday when he will head to Ohio for the fourth Democratic debate.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-says-he-misspoke-when-he-said-campaign-would-slow-its-pace
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Destitution : l'attitude de Trump, «sans précédent» et «sans fondement»
Par Frédéric Autran — 10 octobre 2019 à 05:59

Spécialiste de la Constitution, l'avocate américaine Caroline Fredrickson analyse le choix de la Maison Blanche et anticipe les prochaines étapes de la procédure.

Après une longue carrière politique, notamment auprès de sénateurs démocrates et au sein de l’administration Clinton, l’avocate Caroline Fredrickson est aujourd’hui présidente émérite de l’American Constitution Society, un groupe progressiste spécialisé sur les dossiers judiciaires et constitutionnels. De passage à Paris, où elle participe ce jeudi au Congrès de l’Institut des Amériques, elle analyse pour Libération le refus de Donald Trump de coopérer avec l’enquête pour impeachment lancée à la Chambre des représentants.


https://www.liberation.fr/planete/2019/10/10/destitution-l-attitude-de-trump-sans-precedent-et-sans-fondement_1756616

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Destitution: Trump estime que l'affaire finira probablement devant la Cour suprême DT.
Donald Trump a estimé mercredi que la bataille autour de la procédure de destitution lancée par les élus démocrates à son encontre finirait probablement devant la Cour suprême, après le refus de la Maison Blanche de coopérer à l'enquête. Dans le cadre de leur enquête sur l'affaire ukrainienne, les élus démocrates ont officiellement réclamé à la Maison Blanche de livrer des documents au Congrès, et souhaitent entendre plusieurs responsables. Mais la Maison Blanche a informé mardi que l'administration Trump ne participerait pas à l'enquête, estimant que cette dernière n'était pas légitime.
https://www.liberation.fr/direct/element/destitution-trump-estime-que-laffaire-finira-probablement-devant-la-cour-supreme_103782/



Pas tant sûr :

Corentin Sellin a écrit:

‏Corentin Sellin a retweeté Stephane Hubert

Stephane Hubert @stephubert
En réponse à @CorentinSellin
"La chambre pourrait elle demander à la SCOTUS de statuer s/ la question de constitutionnalité? Et si oui, malgré le biais supposé/avéré de la SCOTUS, ne peut on pas imaginer qu'ils rendraient un verdict en faveur de la chambre, ce qui serait un désaveu politique majeur pr Trump?"



#Postscriptum(I) #courrierdeslecteurs
Point TRES important dans la guerre constitutionnelle qui s'annonce entre #Trump et Chambre sur l'#impeachment: la #CourSuprême ne devrait y jouer aucun rôle…à cause du fameux arrêt Nixon (l'autre!!) v USA de 1993

23:00 - 8 oct. 2019[/i]

#Postscriptum(II) #courrierdeslecteurs
Cet arrêt Nixon de la #CourSuprême en 1993 du nom d'1 juge fédéral destitué après #impeachment a amené la Cour à statuer en 1993 que l'impeachment est un processus POLITIQUE qui n'est pas susceptible d'examen par les tribunaux judiciaires.
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#Postscriptum (III) #courrierdeslecteurs
Tout le raisonnement juridique de l'arrêt Nixon de la #CourSuprême va contre la lettre de Cipollone/#Trump rappelant que la Constitution a donné aux 2 Chambres "SEULES" (sole) le pouvoir d'#impeachment (Chambre) et de destitution (Sénat)
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#Postscriptum (IV) #courrierdeslecteurs
Bref, si vous voulez faire les marioles (voire les cadors) sur #Trump et l'#impeachment, citez 1 maximum cet arrêt #Nixon de la #CourSuprême d'1 air pontifiant, il sera fondamental dans les semaines à venir. A lire ci-dessous!!

voir à la fin du thread : https://twitter.com/CorentinSellin/status/1181811613097218048

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Ukraine president says 'no blackmail' in phone call with Trump

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told reporters Thursday his controversial July call with President Trump involved no bribe, blackmail or quid pro quo, as impeachment-minded Democrats claim.

Zelensky spoke at a daylong event with media inside a Kiev food market, and said he believes the transcript released by the White House is accurate and that he knew the U.S. had withheld $400 million in military aid due to concerns about corruption and concern for American "taxpayer money." But the issue, he said, was never linked to Trump's desire that Kiev rekindle an investigation into an energy company with ties to former Vice President Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden.

"There was no blackmail," Zelensky said. "They blocked this money and nobody asked us [for] anything,"

A whistleblower's claim that Trump implied in the July 25 phone call that restoration of the aid would be conditioned on Ukraine reopening a probe of Burisma Holdings and the Bidens' involvement in the matter has prompted Democrats in the House to launch an impeachment inquiry. On Tuesday, Fox News contributor John Solomon reported that the Ukrainian government had already ordered a reopening of the probe of Burisma Holdings months before the two presidents spoke by phone.

The military aid was later released to Ukraine, and President Trump has denied the whistleblower's claims. The White House has also refused to cooperate with what it claims is an unconstitutional impeachment effort by House Democrats.

The White House sent an eight-page letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., on Tuesday that read: "President Trump and his administration reject your baseless, unconstitutional efforts to overturn the democratic process. Your unprecedented actions have left the president with no choice.

"In order to fulfill his duties to the American people, the Constitution, the Executive Branch, and all future occupants of the Office of the Presidency, President Trump and his administration cannot participate in your partisan and unconstitutional inquiry under these circumstances."

Zelensky, a 41-year-old actor, comedian and screenwriter elected in May, has sought to reverse his country's image as a hotbed of corruption. He told reporters Thursday that the main purpose of his conversation with Trump was to set up a meeting with the American president and show reform measures were in place in Ukraine.

"We just wanted to establish relations," he said, adding at one point, "the story with Burisma has nothing to do with weapons."

Trump and other Biden critics question how Hunter Biden, who reportedly knew little about the energy business and the country, ended up on Burisma’s board while his father was vice president and spearheaded Ukraine relations under President Barack Obama. The elder Biden was later recorded bragging about how he pressured Ukraine to oust a prosecutor who had been looking into the company's founder, though Biden allies say this intervention was driven by corruption concerns.

It is unclear how much money Hunter Biden made while serving on the board of the firm, but reports have estimated he made up to $1 million per year.


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Le Figaro" a écrit:
Donald Trump: «Les Kurdes ne nous ont pas aidés en Normandie»

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«Les Kurdes se battent pour leur terre, il faut que vous compreniez», a par exemple expliqué le président républicain depuis la Maison Blanche. Affirmant s’appuyer sur un article «très puissant», vraisemblablement publié par le site Internet conservateur Townhall, il a développé son argumentaire: «Ils ne nous ont pas aidés pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale. Ils ne nous ont pas aidés en Normandie, par exemple». «Nous avons dépensé énormément d’argent pour aider les Kurdes, que ce soit en munitions, en armes, ou en argent». «Ceci étant dit, nous aimons les Kurdes», a-t-il conclu.


https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/donald-trump-les-kurdes-en-nous-ont-pas-aides-en-normandie-20191010

C'est hénaurme ! :aboveshock:

Je suis tout prêt à croire que Trump connaît le vrai contexte (des Kurdes pendant WW2 :lol:), mais qu'il utilise cet argument (bidon) pour sa fan-base qui elle ignore tout des Kurdes.

M'enfin, avec ce genre de raccourci, comment expliquer que les USA aient soutenu les Allemands pendant le siège de Berlin en 1948 ?
Est-ce que les Allemands avaient aidé les US en Normandie, au moins ? :mefiant12:
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Biden campaign slams NY Times for running 'Clinton Cash' author's op-ed on ex-VP's Ukraine ties

The deputy manager of Joe Biden’s 2020 presidential campaign slammed The New York Times on Wednesday in a letter to the newspaper’s executive editor -- blasting the paper's coverage of the former vice president’s involvement in Ukraine.

The letter, written by Kate Bedingfield to Dean Baquet of the Times, criticizes the paper for “giving top billing" to "Clinton Cash" author Peter Schweizer in a Wednesday op-ed titled, “What Hunter Biden Did Was Legal – That’s the Problem," CNN reported.

In his article, Schweizer asserts Biden was "self-dealing" in Ukraine while vice president.

"Congress can and should conduct an inquiry to determine whether anything illegal occurred," Schweizer writes.

Bedingfield goes on to criticize The Times' Ukraine coverage at large. She writes that the newspaper had an "outsized hand in a baseless conspiracy theory" promoted by Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani that Biden acted inappropriately in helping get rid of a Ukrainian prosecutor.

She then accuses the Times of "active participation" in a "smear campaign" against Biden, citing a May article titled, "Biden Faces Conflict of Interest Questions That Are Being Promoted by Trump and Allies."

The Times later pushed back against the Biden campaign official's assertions, according to a statement obtained by CNN.

"Our coverage of the Biden campaign and Hunter Biden has been fair and accurate," the newspaper wrote, adding it "will continue to cover Joe Biden with the same tough and fair standards we apply to every candidate in the race and we’re happy to sit down with Biden advisers anytime to discuss news coverage."

The Times' statement emphasized the Schweizer story was published in the Opinion section, "where their mission is to invite intelligent discussion on a range of opinions and ideas."

The Biden campaign also sent letters to Twitter and Facebook on Wednesday, asking them not to run ads from the Trump campaign that promote what it described as conspiracy theories about the Bidens in Ukraine, according to CNN.


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Le Figaro" a écrit:
Donald Trump: «Les Kurdes ne nous ont pas aidés en Normandie»

Citation:
«Les Kurdes se battent pour leur terre, il faut que vous compreniez», a par exemple expliqué le président républicain depuis la Maison Blanche. Affirmant s’appuyer sur un article «très puissant», vraisemblablement publié par le site Internet conservateur Townhall, il a développé son argumentaire: «Ils ne nous ont pas aidés pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale. Ils ne nous ont pas aidés en Normandie, par exemple». «Nous avons dépensé énormément d’argent pour aider les Kurdes, que ce soit en munitions, en armes, ou en argent». «Ceci étant dit, nous aimons les Kurdes», a-t-il conclu.


https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/donald-trump-les-kurdes-en-nous-ont-pas-aides-en-normandie-20191010

C'est hénaurme ! :aboveshock:

Je suis tout prêt à croire que Trump connaît le vrai contexte (des Kurdes pendant WW2 :lol:), mais qu'il utilise cet argument (bidon) pour sa fan-base qui elle ignore tout des Kurdes.

M'enfin, avec ce genre de raccourci, comment expliquer que les USA aient soutenu les Allemands pendant le siège de Berlin en 1948 ?
Est-ce que les Allemands avaient aidé les US en Normandie, au moins ? :mefiant12:



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DNCG a écrit:
Le Figaro" a écrit:
Donald Trump: «Les Kurdes ne nous ont pas aidés en Normandie»

Citation:
«Les Kurdes se battent pour leur terre, il faut que vous compreniez», a par exemple expliqué le président républicain depuis la Maison Blanche. Affirmant s’appuyer sur un article «très puissant», vraisemblablement publié par le site Internet conservateur Townhall, il a développé son argumentaire: «Ils ne nous ont pas aidés pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale. Ils ne nous ont pas aidés en Normandie, par exemple». «Nous avons dépensé énormément d’argent pour aider les Kurdes, que ce soit en munitions, en armes, ou en argent». «Ceci étant dit, nous aimons les Kurdes», a-t-il conclu.


https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/donald-trump-les-kurdes-en-nous-ont-pas-aides-en-normandie-20191010


C'est hénaurme ! :aboveshock:

Je suis tout prêt à croire que Trump connaît le vrai contexte (des Kurdes pendant WW2 :lol:), mais qu'il utilise cet argument (bidon) pour sa fan-base qui elle ignore tout des Kurdes.

M'enfin, avec ce genre de raccourci, comment expliquer que les USA aient soutenu les Allemands pendant le siège de Berlin en 1948 ?
Est-ce que les Allemands avaient aidé les US en Normandie, au moins ? :mefiant12:


A mon avis, la base trumpiste se fout un peu que Trump abandonné les Kurdes. Par contre, ils ne se foutent pas de voir leur champion moqué par les vilains libéraux. La critique sur le fond (les conséquences géopolitiques et sur la sécurité) passe au second plan.

Et c'est gagné pour Trump.

Mais sinon, il ne faut pas se leurrer. La Turquie serait intervenue tôt ou tard. Ils n'attendent que ça depuis 1990. Si les Américains s'étaient opposés plus longtemps, Erdogan serait allé chercher le soutien des Russes. Ce que ne veulent pas les Américains.
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